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	<title>Comments on: Orthodox Paradox III: Conclusion? (Our Meeting Was Sabotaged)</title>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.thegimcrackmiscellany.com/2007/06/orthodox-paradox-iii-conclusion-our-meeting-was-sabotaged/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, now that&#039;s some name callin&#039;. I wouldn&#039;t go that far, for the record. I appreciate the sentiment though, and I&#039;m still trying to figure out your logic at the end there... LOL

Seriously, I get what you&#039;re saying though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, now that&#8217;s some name callin&#8217;. I wouldn&#8217;t go that far, for the record. I appreciate the sentiment though, and I&#8217;m still trying to figure out your logic at the end there&#8230; LOL</p>
<p>Seriously, I get what you&#8217;re saying though.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.thegimcrackmiscellany.com/2007/06/orthodox-paradox-iii-conclusion-our-meeting-was-sabotaged/comment-page-1/#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it is less likely to become ingrown and more likely to contain different points of view&quot;

True.

Also, I thought your church was more like 300, so it&#039;s really not nearly as big as I thought...

Glad to hear you reclaimed the meeting. Nice job.

Every church has it&#039;s problems. Whether it be a certain Nazi or a schizo loudmouth... No offense to either of those two I just called out, we still love you. In fact, the fact that we choose not to hate you shows that we love you even more than people who are &#039;easily&#039; love-able, even if we do complain about you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it is less likely to become ingrown and more likely to contain different points of view&#8221;</p>
<p>True.</p>
<p>Also, I thought your church was more like 300, so it&#8217;s really not nearly as big as I thought&#8230;</p>
<p>Glad to hear you reclaimed the meeting. Nice job.</p>
<p>Every church has it&#8217;s problems. Whether it be a certain Nazi or a schizo loudmouth&#8230; No offense to either of those two I just called out, we still love you. In fact, the fact that we choose not to hate you shows that we love you even more than people who are &#8216;easily&#8217; love-able, even if we do complain about you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.thegimcrackmiscellany.com/2007/06/orthodox-paradox-iii-conclusion-our-meeting-was-sabotaged/comment-page-1/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art wins the prize! One big honkin dollar is coming your way. Notice how I didn&#039;t include the word &quot;bill&quot; in there, which means it could be made up of various coins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art wins the prize! One big honkin dollar is coming your way. Notice how I didn&#8217;t include the word &#8220;bill&#8221; in there, which means it could be made up of various coins.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.thegimcrackmiscellany.com/2007/06/orthodox-paradox-iii-conclusion-our-meeting-was-sabotaged/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thou thyself hast said it - and so I shant rant. :-)  Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thou thyself hast said it &#8211; and so I shant rant. <img src='http://www.thegimcrackmiscellany.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;m sure I would have much to say on this if I had the time, I&#039;m just hoping to win some money.

Office Space?  Like the guy who invented the pet rock?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;m sure I would have much to say on this if I had the time, I&#8217;m just hoping to win some money.</p>
<p>Office Space?  Like the guy who invented the pet rock?</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.thegimcrackmiscellany.com/2007/06/orthodox-paradox-iii-conclusion-our-meeting-was-sabotaged/comment-page-1/#comment-141</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good idea Luke, just don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good idea Luke, just don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://www.thegimcrackmiscellany.com/2007/06/orthodox-paradox-iii-conclusion-our-meeting-was-sabotaged/comment-page-1/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do I even begin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do I even begin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.thegimcrackmiscellany.com/2007/06/orthodox-paradox-iii-conclusion-our-meeting-was-sabotaged/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let&#039;s just say I rebutted the hijacking comments immediately and reclaimed control of the meeting, but the fact remains that it still happened.

Big churches? I don&#039;t know if I call a church of 60-90 regular attendees big. I have a lot of friends who go to churches of a thousand or more... that&#039;s big. And the good thing about a big church is that it is less likely to become ingrown and more likely to contain different points of view. I would call ours a medium size church, if that.

I agree that some individuals shouldn&#039;t have been at the meeting. I&#039;m not sure what to do about that though. I guess you really can&#039;t start picking and choosing who to invite. That&#039;s the problem with opening up the floor like that, you get a lot of disagreement. I thrive on disagreement, but this meeting was more than differing opinions, it was differing viewpoints as to what the meeting was even about in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s just say I rebutted the hijacking comments immediately and reclaimed control of the meeting, but the fact remains that it still happened.</p>
<p>Big churches? I don&#8217;t know if I call a church of 60-90 regular attendees big. I have a lot of friends who go to churches of a thousand or more&#8230; that&#8217;s big. And the good thing about a big church is that it is less likely to become ingrown and more likely to contain different points of view. I would call ours a medium size church, if that.</p>
<p>I agree that some individuals shouldn&#8217;t have been at the meeting. I&#8217;m not sure what to do about that though. I guess you really can&#8217;t start picking and choosing who to invite. That&#8217;s the problem with opening up the floor like that, you get a lot of disagreement. I thrive on disagreement, but this meeting was more than differing opinions, it was differing viewpoints as to what the meeting was even about in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher McCulloh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher McCulloh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMFG. Unbelievable.

Why didn&#039;t someone make the hurting stop? Was there not anyone leading the meeting?

Those people should have received a loving swift kick out the door, with an explanation that these things they are doing are the EXACT reason why people want to leave, and why you needed a meeting WITHOUT them in the first place...

I am happy that all of my WTF are usually quarantined to waitresses, salesmen and internet browsers. This makes me afraid of big churches. Although I do admit that my church has it&#039;s own problems, just less people, so less variety, and less often...

Oh, and mad props for recognizing that the poor are not the only ones who need our help. It&#039;s just the feel good liberal mentality to throw a bag of money at the poor and think that you did some good, when really all you did was gave someone who does not know how to handle money, a bunch of money that they are now going to handle poorly and probably get themselves into an even bigger mess than they were in before...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMFG. Unbelievable.</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t someone make the hurting stop? Was there not anyone leading the meeting?</p>
<p>Those people should have received a loving swift kick out the door, with an explanation that these things they are doing are the EXACT reason why people want to leave, and why you needed a meeting WITHOUT them in the first place&#8230;</p>
<p>I am happy that all of my WTF are usually quarantined to waitresses, salesmen and internet browsers. This makes me afraid of big churches. Although I do admit that my church has it&#8217;s own problems, just less people, so less variety, and less often&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, and mad props for recognizing that the poor are not the only ones who need our help. It&#8217;s just the feel good liberal mentality to throw a bag of money at the poor and think that you did some good, when really all you did was gave someone who does not know how to handle money, a bunch of money that they are now going to handle poorly and probably get themselves into an even bigger mess than they were in before&#8230;</p>
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